Always. With enough Happiness, Return’s base power can rival moves like Surf and Earthquake. As Dresden said, that's where you get HM03. Sharpedo is objectively the best. Lmao, yes I fused it with air and use it as the hm slave 🤣 . Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate's two. my HM slave is a mew Zabuzadono 15 years ago #13 Bibarel can learn 6: Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb Pelliper learns 3: Fly, Surf, DeFog Bibarel: Cut Rock Smash Waterfall Rock Climb / Strength Pelliper: Fly Surf DeFog Roost / Stockpile Strength/Rock Climb can be learned by a bunch of useful critters. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. Keckleon is also an interesting choice for a hm slave. ago. Oh wow according to serebii, sentret can learn: Cut, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool. #1. bookwormzzzz 14 years ago #5. I was too dumb for the strat when I was 6, but linoone:belly drum, substitute, headbutt, shadow ball. Growth. Other possible HM Pokemons are: Marill, Tropius, Psyduck, Nidoking, Pelipper, Pikachu, Dragonite, Swampert, Bibarel,. It can also learn Rock Smash, which is still a TM in this generation, but it's very useful. Gyarados is. Surf (HM, gift from your rival) Strength (HM, gift from Grant) Unfortunately, I’m making Blastoise an HM slave because it learns almost all of the HMs in Kalos. XBLGT: LeviAJones. Thanks. And the best HM slave is Mew, but as gb said a grass and water Pokemon will do fine. ORAS/Gen 3 were the worst, Platinum was the best. Head to the appropriate page from Pokémon games in the menu. Furret learns cut/surf/rock smash/strength, good early game HM slave. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. Generation 2 also adds a Move Deleter character, allowing Pokémon to forget HM moves once learned. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. This Pokemon can learn every known HM with the exception of Fly, and it. Actually many prefer Bibarbel and Tropius. Geodude helps if ''your head falls off''. Dragonite. Dragonite learning all 8 would make sense IMO, but I don't think he can. Usefulness is at 150%. NNID: Surgemaster140 | 3DS FC: 0044 - 3133 - 9479. Pokémon Black & Pokémon White actually cut back the number of HMs from previous games, from eight in Generation 4 down to six. It is a. What's the best HM slave? kenneth7415 13 years ago #1. Switch: 6072-8530-7630 (hotinanako); rikkiH2O: 0468-3394-0122 (please add); ACNH: Island - Kasukabe, IGN - Wesker - Claire; ACPC: 8430 8405 831 (Rikki) GundamX99 (Topic Creator) 13 years ago #3. Or excellent lover. Michael answered: I would say the best HM Slave in FireRed would be Gyarados. Tentacool and Tropius learn all of the. Starting anew after one year of contemplation. -Rocksmash. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Linoone was one of my best pokemon in my first run of emerald. One move that Krabby can't learn is waterfall, and that is not a problem because Gyarados uses it. 2. jschristy 13 years ago #9. Yes, you can get around it with an HM slave. . Bibarel is hands down the best HM slave. Slap flash on something just for Dark Cave, keep something with Cut in your 6th slot, and other than that you aren't hurting anything by. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. B/W really removed the need for HM slaves. Where to find the HMs in FireRed/LeafGreen. Both Kabutops and Aerodactyl suffer from poor movepools. Tentacool can be used for Surf, Waterfall, Whirlpool and Cut. Thank you Bibarel, you’re a true friend. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. hm in Celestic town, given by Cynthia's grandma either after defeating galactic grunt there in Dimond and Pearl or defeating Cyrus in Platinum)In my opinion, Bibarel and Skarmory/Tropius are the best HM Slaves available. tropius is also a good hm slave. Also: Dig and thief. I only used an HM slave once. I was wondering, what is the best early and solid HM slave you could get? First time playing gen4 so not that much knowledge on it. kirbymuncher 11 years ago #4. 1st- Surf (for water travel and best Water move for it. So far I like using Linoone. Zeimma • 9 yr. Nice, thanks for the heads up. Krabby has an Attack stat of 1 and a base friendship of 50. LeviJones 15 years ago #2. 10 hm slave soulsilver Review: 1. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. 4 luiga u should have fly , surf , whirlpool , water fall. 125K subscribers. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Sentret is the worst in every way. 489 posts, 11/11 2:33AM. selected Sep 28, 2014 by Legend Of Lotad. Not changing my signature until America deals with its B. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. PO_hokoCHO_TO 13 years ago #3. . You don't have to teach it to use it. Psyduck's another good one, he can. Nice, thanks for the heads up. 3DS FC/Name: 4828-4041-0022/C Pokemon Y IGN: Termiine/ Safari: Grumpig Espurr Duosion. The move Whirlpool is not an HM and not used for anything outside of GSC. credit to a liikala post. Skarmory is a Steel/Flying-type Pokémon introduced in Generation 2. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. 3. Go Phillies! 0___0 (Topic Creator) 14 years ago #8. It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. Zymogen. And even the newest remakes of the gen I games, Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee, didn’t bring back HMs. Image via The Pokemon Company. of school!" "Ha ha ha. Instructions: Type in the boxes below to search and click your desired move in the list that appears. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. ago. found out dabura is pretty much the best HM slave. Also, anyone know if I can get a friend code and trade with someone over wi-fi for something that isn't in the Unova Dex. Sharpedo for Waterfall/Surf/Dive, and Linoone for Cut/Rock Smash/Strength/Surf. jolly_pickles 14 years ago #4. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. 4. Give me a min and I'll find an article (not a leak). PokeCommunitySo to do it legit, you’d need to get Charizard in Red or Blue, run through a Yellow game until you get Fly, then trade Red’s Charizard for Yellow’s, have Yellow teach Fly, then swap back to continue. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. HM means you either have have to waste a move slot on each of your pokémon or have a HM slave, wasting a team member slot. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. There is no definite HM Slave in Black & White, but it is "confirmed" to be Patrat. This is useful for deciding. Pokemon Alpha Sapphire IGN: Haruka. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. Yeah there's a house with the move deleter, re-learner, and tutor. Tentacruel, Kabutops, Lanturn, Quagsire, Suicune, Crawdaunt, Empoleon, and Mew are some of the best results accorting to this. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. Other hms tho work without having an hm slave. Linoone is the best HM slave of all time (better than Bibarel) because it learns all of the stuff you'd want plus it has Pick Up. gbchaosmaster. skarm. Where to find the HMs in Black 2/White 2. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. Gen 2. HM mule. It is a Water/Normal-type, meaning the majority of HMs will have a STAB when used in battle. 1. Against the Elite Four, it can beat specific threats, almost sweeping Marshal and Grimsley, though there's. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. Bibarel. If you have access to a cheat device, just use two Mews. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. 5. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). Also it gets stab strength, so you can use that in place of headbutt lol. xtra actually arceus/mew are best hm slaves because they can learn ALL moves in game. can he be found early game? 2. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. Ultimate board. That means it can rock smash, climb, surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, and strength. discdeath • 13 yr. Zigzagoon is good. ago. marill is also good. This is especially true if youre looking for an alternative to the usuals. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. 1. -Cut. Cut, Surf, and Strength. problem. ago • Edited 5 yr. See quote for information about quotes. Yeah there's a house with the move deleter, re-learner, and tutor. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. Quagsire can learn Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, and Surf. Pokemon FireRed Version. Constitution: 9/17/1787 - 1/20/2009An HM-slave Gyarados would have: -Surf (bit of a waste since it's a special attack, but it has STAB at least) -Waterfall (a pretty powerful physical water attack with STAB) -Dive (used to be a crappy move, but now has 80 power; it's physical and also has STAB) -Strength (decent normal attack with no STAB, but with Gyarados's high attack, would. Who is the best HM slave in DP? kajillion 15 years ago #1. Furret knows every HM is except Fly. 3 lbs). Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. The best team: - Jirachi, can get before second gym doing a sidequest. From Geodude to Patrat, here are 10 of the best pokemon to catch for HM use only! 10 Tentacool. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. ago. hopefully he can do rock smash as well. Fly is completely optional, as usual, but you won’t have access to the soaring feature until after the 8th gym. 1. Pokefiend 13 years ago #9. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. It learns Cut and Strength as well, putting it comfortably in the “3 HM” category that seems to dominate in Gen 6. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Hope that helps. HM Locations. He also has a 1% encounter rate so you're better off leveling a Drantini or a Dragonair. Quagsire. Xd also, if you consider that the P/SA split was bugged in that era, Waterfall is actually. Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other obstacles at the. Sets up my Samurott for a guaranteed outspeed Rain Dance Mystic Water STAB, or itself, because Hurricane always hits in Rain. Trait - Blaze. Barring Mew & Arceus of course. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Best HM Slave, Soul Silver board?". It learns Strenth, Surf and Dive. I hope this helps. sandslash. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. And a Dragonite with Fly, Defog, Cut, Whirlpool. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. I doubt Rock Climb will remain an HM in HgSs, and Fly is a good-enough move in-game to teach to the physical Flying-type on your team, since there's no risk of an in-game trainer switching to a Rock/Steel/Electric-type and setting up. You get this Pokémon very early in-game and it can learn all the HM's except Waterfall (not sure. You need Surf, and Charizard can’t learn that. TheSmarts 10 years ago #9. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. " - Ludwig Wittgenstein 3DS FC: 2621-3525-7285. best hm slave? Topic Archived; Page 1 of 2; Last ; More Topics from this Board. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. - Tyranitar, can get before second gym as Larvitar in Forlorn Cape. Black and White Tips and Tricks Useful Pokémon - HM Slaves - Catching Useful Items In-Game Trades Seasons Helpful NPC's - Happiness Checker: Shippou City is the location of the happiness checker. u can transfer a bibarel from platinum to blaclk/white as it is the best hm slave whcih can learn all movesSwampert (Rock Climb, Strength, Surf and Whirlpool) and Skarmory (Rock Smash, Fly, Cut and Flash) are my HM slaves. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. In the end though, If I find I no longer need an HM (after all. ago. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). For what it's worth, though, Strength is a fairly decent move ingame and there's probably room for it in the set of one of your physical-oriented pokemon. And, to answer TC's main question, best in-house HM slaves for OR/AS will be Wailmer and Tropius. Open comment sort options Best; Top; New; Controversial; Q&A; Add a Comment. This was a fun spreadsheet to make. Skarmory is also a recommed HM slave because he can learn cut, fly, defog and rock smash meaning u can learn other important HM for the other 3. Rock smash gets replaced within 2 badges. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. RIP U. I really can't think of much to put here, so conversation away! Questions to get you started (feel free to suggest): Do you use HM slaves or do you share the load among the team. =/ No more Rebecca. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. The Black 2. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2 Answers 1 vote Best answer My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. If you want a flying 'HM slave' Tropius is great too: Fly, Strength, Rock Smash and Cut. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. Puzzle and Dragons 303941291. HM Locations. This is a famous water-type HM slave that evolves from Psyduck and, in Heartgold, comes in handy because it’s available virtually everywhere and can make all HM moves except for cutting. But most of the time, you won't need HMs. mew. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. I’d say Ice Beam’s main draw is that it covers Dragon-types beautifully, specifically Dragonite. 8. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2. [deleted] • 4 yr. Pokémon Yellow keeps everything the same. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Is Bidoof a good HM slave? Bidoof gets made fun of a lot for being weak and simply goofy looking. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). sqwigizzzzzzz 15 years ago #4. but I find a team of 6 equally powerful Pokemon a slightly better advantage than just 5 and an HM slave who won't be able to much. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. Best. Oh wow according to serebii, sentret can learn: Cut, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool. I use 2 for HM's I make Seedot use Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, then he has Hidden Power to make bases. Usually main members of my team get HMs that can provide good attacks (Surf mainly, sometimes Fly). Of course, in a game like FireRed, where you absolutely need certain HMs to proceed, most people would agree that HM Slaves. I can't be arsed checking EVERY single one on Bulba. ~Waterfall. Then my polywhirl knows. Good, diverse movepools are so rare that I don't bother with HM slaves in the first Gen. Swampert (Rock Climb, Strength, Surf and Whirlpool) and Skarmory (Rock Smash, Fly, Cut and Flash) are my HM slaves. I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. Pur1tas • Additional comment actions. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. Hidden Machines, abbreviated as HMs and also known as Secret Machines, are items shaped like VCDs or DVDs. What is better nidoqueen or. Imagine like 125 Atk/Def and 30 spatk and spdef or something with 90 speed. 360 GT: Doom Pie. In PokeMMO literature, utility Pokemons focused on HMs called HM slave. between these pokes, find a good combo that lets you minimize your slaves to 2. See quote for information about quotes. I used Linoone. Most Water and Grass types are good choices, namely Gyarados and Tropius. Zigzagoon can learn Surf. . Switch Friend Code: SW-575074-9828-99. Best HM Slave ever. 8. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. hm-slave. Mar 20, 10 at 5:25pm (PST) ^. Kadabra for sure. knows false. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. re: Best HM Slave. This list covers the gen I games (Red, Blue & Yellow), as well as their gen III remakes, Pokémon FireRed and Leaf Green. Its height is 0. If needed I would boot up rock smash and erase false swipe when I wasn't completing my pokedex then swap them back. Not to mention it doesn't really make sense that I had to use a machine to teach my water type Pokemon how. HM artwork for Pokémon Red and Green. It makes a great HM slave with STAB Surf and Fly. :) I think Marillis better. Also, Dive is obtained after the Elite 4. Though eventually your HM slaves will be Sharpedo and Tropius Reply DisasterAhead • Additional comment actions. [deleted] • 4 yr. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Well for HG and SS I'm transferring my level 63 and level 100 Linoones with pick-up as HM slaves, made it through HG without Linoone ever having to battle and now all my teaam is early 70's and Linoone is still on Level 63. Cut+Flash+Rock Smash: Paras, Tangela, Bulbasaur, Mew. 2 votes. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. The guide mentions that Lickitung can learn 6 of the HMs. Fenor • 13 yr. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. This nickname is tied to a Pokemon mechanic known as the Hidden Machine, or. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). Rock Climb, Surf, and I think Strength and Rock Smash. #11. Catch a Gible in Forlorn Cape to use as an HM slave, and turn Mudkip into an HM slave. TM # Move Location TM01best hm slave(s) in this game; Dwhite_1 8 years ago #1. Guizinho111 · 1/28/2018 in Pokémon Help. Technologic Clan. 3DS FC: 3754-7554-1160 IGN: Danny. Cut Fly Surf Strength Flash Interactive checklist of the Hidden Machines (HMs) found in Pokémon Red, Blue & Yellow, their locations and which Pokémon can learn them. The only bad thing about Marill is that it can't learn fly, so it works well along with any team that already has a fly user. Not worth all that effort for a HM slave. Bibarel and Lopunny are decent options. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. Strength. Best answer. • 2 yr. Every Pokemon has a use, and Bibarel's is being the HM slave grandmaster. Apr 6, 2010. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. Psyduck's another good one, he can. It's finding rate is 7%, but it's worth the effort. Strangely, the HM Dive is not available, nor are there any areas in which it can be used. Imma say bidoof/bibarel. But my HM Gyarados can still fight well in battle, so I don't usually encounter this problem. Additional comment actions. Can Raticate learn surf? Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate’s two. NarutoFever1 13 years ago #6. Bidoof gets made fun of a lot for being weak and simply goofy looking. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. I usually try & have my team each learn one or two HM moves so I won't have to use a slot for an HM Slave. Gen 5 actually requires less HM’s than most games right? Like cut is only required for the dream yard, I think you only need to surf a few times, same with strength, and waterfall I believe you need too. It could learn all the necessary ones but cut, which is pretty darn good. Most of Corsola's wide learnset via TMs is ineffective due to Corsola's lacking offensive stats. Bibarel and Tropius. Other than that, you need Strength, Surf, Dive, and Fly. If you have access to one, a Rampardos learns a bunch. . However, Sidney has two Grass types on his team, so be cautious. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. B. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to. Flash and Defog are for the weak. Where to find the HMs in X/Y. Mandibuzz can learn Fly and Cut. You can also try out the different combos and see which Pokemon can learn what move:. Who are the good HM Slaves? Rufflet is a good Pokemon to hold Fly, Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash (Not an HM, but once was). Best HM slaves of all times Boards Pokemon Scarlet Best HM slaves of all times Topic Archived Page 1 of 3 Next Last Product Deals See All Amazon $49. This is the place where you can give your Pokémon to. Vanilluxe. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. King_Michal 13 years ago #7. There needs to be a hack where Cut is 100 / 100 grass or steel. 1 Answer. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen keep the original 5 HMs from Red/Blue, but also contain Rock Smash and Waterfall, which were introduced in Ruby/Sapphire. 4 meters (1’04”) tall and its weight is 6. 1. Business, Economics, and Finance. Companion_Cube_ 10 years ago #10. Nidoking/Nidoqueen.